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Doing Theology with a Philosopher

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Recently i have been talking with one of the best philosophers today, Alan Rhoda.  We have been discussing how God relates within Himself as Triune, and the implications of this topic for understanding God’s relationship to time. 

I have been very excited to participate in a such a discussion with such a brilliant mind.  Recently he posted about our exchange that started in  the comments section of one of his earliest posts.  To be honest i’m flattered to see him give my thoughts some earnest consideration.  He has been very gracious.

So i would encourage you to head over to his blog for two reasons: 1) To get a chance to talk with such a sharp guy.  I’ve found it very beneficial to talk with him, because he is a very precise communicator.  He is indirectly showing me the value of philosophy, particularly logic, for doing theology.  2) After reading his analysis of my thoughts (which he words better than i do), please chime in.  Be forewarned, if you don’t buy into a more “social” understanding of the Trinity, you will probably disagree with me.  I haven’t completely formulated my response, but i’m cooking one up, to either be responded to in his comments or to post on here. 

Contemporary European Views of God (1): Karl Barth on the Trinity

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When discussing Karl Barth’s doctrine of God, one would be remiss if the Trinity wasn’t mentioned.  Here again, Barth was a revolutionary, due more to his reviving of the most ancient of understandings of God, rather than by introducing a theological novelty.  As Veli-Mattie Karkkainen (hereafter his name will be abbreviated as VMK) puts it “Barth can be hailed as the pioneer of the revival of trinitarian theology for the 20th century (127).”

Although the idea of the Trinity wasn’t new, the place Barth put it was a new idea.  Barth changed the way scholars looked at systematic theology by placing the Trinity at the forefront of his magnum opus Church Dogmatics.  In addition to the placement of the doctrine, he also made it foundational to his whole project.  This is found in his famous formula “God reveals himself.  He reveals himself through himself.  He reveals himself (CD 1/1: 296).”  Thus as VMK points out, “for Barth God’s revelation and God’s being are identical.  God is who God is revealed to be.”  That being the case, it is after the Trinity that concepts that usually precede it are discussed.  Barth’s ingenuity is found in the fact that while historically God’s oneness was the starting place for the theological enterprise, he instead began with God’s triunity (127).

Concerning Barth’s particular conception of the trinity, there is much controversy.  Barth is frequently charged with adhering to a heresy called modalism.  Barth often is accused of this because of his disdain for the use of the term “person” when discussing the trinity.  Barth believed that such usage in the modern world was at odds with its earlier intent when used.  In the modern world, Barth argued, person implies three members of the trinity with their own wills and minds.  To Barth, this is tritheism, which is heresy.  Thus, since God is one, Barth preferred the term “mode of being (German: Seinsweise).”  It is easy to see how using a term so close to a previously condemned heresy would put Barth in hot water here (127).

So was Barth a heretic?  VMK thinks not, although he does grant that if all we had were the 1st part of his dogmatics, that criticism might hold to a degree.  However, in his later volumes Barth more than puts this suspicion to rest.  In his last volume of the dogmatics before his passing, Barth “introduces historicity into the Triune God and in doing so ‘revolutionizes so-called classical Christian theism (127-128).”  In his famous (infamous?) section in the CD (IV/1), entitled “The Way of the Son into a Far Country,” He brings the Economic Trinity and the Imminent Trinity together by describing the Prodigal’s journey as the Son’s own journey into a far land.  However, since the Son is also God himself, it follows from this that “the Son’s journey is God’s own journey and that the Son’s self-humiliation is an expression of God’s own transcendance.”  It is clear from this that for Barth that the Triune God has stepped into history and also marks clear distinctions between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (128). 

Of course, for some like myself, Barth historicizing God, so to speak, answers the modalism question but open several new cans of worms.  What, more precisely, was Barth’s view of God’s relationship to time?  It seems like he would be a little more nuanced than to simply say that God is “in” time.  Would He be sypathetic to Open Theism?  How does God actually being intertwined with human history through the incarnation affect our understanding of anthropomorphisms?  How about metaphors as well?  

Let me close by saying that this was a very hard post for me.  It took me quite a while to feel like i was grasping it, and honestly i feel a little confused on some of this still.  However, i throw this out there for all to read, and hope that people more comfortable with Barth can help elucidate this central theme of his for everyone else better.